matthewHUB
Nov 17, 04:33 PM
Can i just mention something??
I'm a musician and am very well acquainted with notation software such as sibelius 4 and Finale. What on earth would be the point in having a piano keyboard interface?? The range can't really be more than an octave, which is rather useless when writing... And even then, just to use it as an imput method would be so much slower then just typing the names of notes. Now one can press the letter 'a' and an A (the note) will be displayed. When using such software, it's not the note imput that takes the time, it's the changing of note values, and adding instructions and markings to the score. for this, the piano keyboard would be useless. What, so every time you want to write a new italian tempo marking, you have to switch to a keyboard?? sucks.
Oh, and some people may say that it could midi record and notate what you play... but this rarely works well and even then you're stuck with the range of probs just over an octave.
Thoughts welcome.
I'm a musician and am very well acquainted with notation software such as sibelius 4 and Finale. What on earth would be the point in having a piano keyboard interface?? The range can't really be more than an octave, which is rather useless when writing... And even then, just to use it as an imput method would be so much slower then just typing the names of notes. Now one can press the letter 'a' and an A (the note) will be displayed. When using such software, it's not the note imput that takes the time, it's the changing of note values, and adding instructions and markings to the score. for this, the piano keyboard would be useless. What, so every time you want to write a new italian tempo marking, you have to switch to a keyboard?? sucks.
Oh, and some people may say that it could midi record and notate what you play... but this rarely works well and even then you're stuck with the range of probs just over an octave.
Thoughts welcome.
twoodcc
Aug 26, 09:14 PM
All is well now, I have a bigadv unit started on it as well as gpu folding. I took some fiddling around trying figure it out but it's cranking now, should see results soon. It did run one normal a3 unit in very quick time and the gpu is hitting about 14k ppd which is slow :p but I think the cpu is hogging all it's cycles.
I'll need to figure out how to adjust things to get them both running at best speed. And when the weather gets cooler I can try oc'ing this rig as well as the other 2 rigs.
glad you got it working! if you think the cpu is taking away from the gpu, then run -smp 11 in your case (12 logical cores right?) that will give a little to the gpu (i have 8 logical cores, and on one machine i run -smp 7 to give to the gpus)
yeah you gotta overclock to get the real points
By the way - I feel like a traitor running 3 (legit) copies of windows for a mac team, Ubuntu is still on some of the disks but not running on anything now. At least I have Mac OSX running on the Mac Pro with maybe another Mac Pro coming next year... sometime...
i don't feel bad really. i still use macs everyday, just not for folding right now.
dang you would really put up some points if you got another mac pro!
I'll need to figure out how to adjust things to get them both running at best speed. And when the weather gets cooler I can try oc'ing this rig as well as the other 2 rigs.
glad you got it working! if you think the cpu is taking away from the gpu, then run -smp 11 in your case (12 logical cores right?) that will give a little to the gpu (i have 8 logical cores, and on one machine i run -smp 7 to give to the gpus)
yeah you gotta overclock to get the real points
By the way - I feel like a traitor running 3 (legit) copies of windows for a mac team, Ubuntu is still on some of the disks but not running on anything now. At least I have Mac OSX running on the Mac Pro with maybe another Mac Pro coming next year... sometime...
i don't feel bad really. i still use macs everyday, just not for folding right now.
dang you would really put up some points if you got another mac pro!
maclaptop
Apr 17, 07:24 AM
Your rebuttel makes no sense. He's not talking just about himself but in general about the risk of defection among people that arent willing to wait. Himself being an example.
With the fierce competition iOS faces from android right now and maybe also nokia by then, you seem like a fanboy out of touch with the present market reality. You can be sure he wont be the only one pondering this. Very risky move from apple if they would delay the next iphone IMNSHO.
I don't see any risk. Apple buyers are sufficiently ignorant of other choices, and too vain to be seen with anything without the Apple logo to prove their cool.
They will, as the white holdouts, wait for an unreasonable amount of time. Even if at their own expense. Apple had them right where they want them. waiting with baited breath.
With the fierce competition iOS faces from android right now and maybe also nokia by then, you seem like a fanboy out of touch with the present market reality. You can be sure he wont be the only one pondering this. Very risky move from apple if they would delay the next iphone IMNSHO.
I don't see any risk. Apple buyers are sufficiently ignorant of other choices, and too vain to be seen with anything without the Apple logo to prove their cool.
They will, as the white holdouts, wait for an unreasonable amount of time. Even if at their own expense. Apple had them right where they want them. waiting with baited breath.
darkplanets
Mar 29, 10:09 AM
Let me just sum this up in advance:
Apple sues someone: "They are protecting their IP/trademarks."
Not to everyone. Apple usually isn't the aggressor, they do however counter-sue quite voraciously. A lot of Apple's patents could be considered questionable, but it was accepted at the time so alas, they are not :rolleyes:
Someone sues Apple: "They are bleeding money and need an Apple handout" or "Patent troll"
In this case though, Nokia isn't doing well. They aren't at the point yet where they are bleeding money (hardly at all) but their market impact has been greatly affected, and they are rapidly losing their profit margins relative to a few years ago.
Usually this is followed by someone with a 'shareholder' remark since they somehow believe that owning 7 shares of Apple should get them a direct line to the CEO.
had it ever occurred to you that some people on this site could be better off than you? I'm sure there's plenty of 7 share despots, but to categorize everyone into one lump... you're essentially doing the same as what you describe above.
Ut-oh, I'm not conforming to the groupthink... here comes about 40 'hater' comments.
Hater, no. Logic, yes.
As per the actual lawsuit, if I do recall one of the original points brought up was FRAND for some of the GSM patents-- this could account for the delay we see in the lawsuits even though the iPhone has been out for a few years-- if I do recall correctly there had been discussions about licensing before between Nokia and Apple. Now it seems like this is a last ditch effort, however, as bringing out extra patents that weren't related to the core issue is usually a sign of desperation.
Just speculation though.
Apple sues someone: "They are protecting their IP/trademarks."
Not to everyone. Apple usually isn't the aggressor, they do however counter-sue quite voraciously. A lot of Apple's patents could be considered questionable, but it was accepted at the time so alas, they are not :rolleyes:
Someone sues Apple: "They are bleeding money and need an Apple handout" or "Patent troll"
In this case though, Nokia isn't doing well. They aren't at the point yet where they are bleeding money (hardly at all) but their market impact has been greatly affected, and they are rapidly losing their profit margins relative to a few years ago.
Usually this is followed by someone with a 'shareholder' remark since they somehow believe that owning 7 shares of Apple should get them a direct line to the CEO.
had it ever occurred to you that some people on this site could be better off than you? I'm sure there's plenty of 7 share despots, but to categorize everyone into one lump... you're essentially doing the same as what you describe above.
Ut-oh, I'm not conforming to the groupthink... here comes about 40 'hater' comments.
Hater, no. Logic, yes.
As per the actual lawsuit, if I do recall one of the original points brought up was FRAND for some of the GSM patents-- this could account for the delay we see in the lawsuits even though the iPhone has been out for a few years-- if I do recall correctly there had been discussions about licensing before between Nokia and Apple. Now it seems like this is a last ditch effort, however, as bringing out extra patents that weren't related to the core issue is usually a sign of desperation.
Just speculation though.
kdarling
Dec 10, 08:28 AM
If true, I would imagine it would only affect new accounts and renewals, those of us with AT&T already signed up with unlimited as part of the plan, they change that and it could make a world of legal trouble.
Like other carriers, AT&T's data plan terms already have this clause:
AT&T reserves the right to
(i) deny, disconnect, modify and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network, including without limitation, after a significant period of inactivity or after sessions of excessive usage and
(ii) otherwise protect its wireless network from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance, which may impact legitimate data flows.
Like other carriers, AT&T's data plan terms already have this clause:
AT&T reserves the right to
(i) deny, disconnect, modify and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network, including without limitation, after a significant period of inactivity or after sessions of excessive usage and
(ii) otherwise protect its wireless network from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance, which may impact legitimate data flows.
bboucher790
Apr 4, 10:11 AM
I love the fact Apple has competition. I believe iOS 5 will benefit a lot from "successful" Android technologies. Competition means better phones, better software, and lower prices. I'd take any of those three things over "bragging rights".
cambookpro
Oct 20, 11:04 AM
It was a joke. Li-Ion. As in "Lion" (the animal in the picture..?)
Never mind, most people got it.
Lol! :D
Never mind, most people got it.
Lol! :D
Adurbe
Dec 2, 06:19 AM
no mum, I am a poor starving student!!
What new trainers?
O.. Theeeeeeese?!
They're not mine... they're for... ummm.. my doctorate!! 'Research'!! Honest!!
:D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:
What new trainers?
O.. Theeeeeeese?!
They're not mine... they're for... ummm.. my doctorate!! 'Research'!! Honest!!
:D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:
blow45
Apr 21, 03:06 PM
one vote and that negative for something so many people are so eagerly waiting about, apple's proper forray into the cloud.
Gotta love people's negativity in these forums for it's humour quality, unbelievable as it might be.
But it's high time that people here took that ridiculous voting system out too. It was misguided to begin with, it still is. But because people have been calling you out to change it you are becoming more stubborn and keeping it. Not a good a thing to do.
Anyway on to the topic, it sounds very exciting and I can't wait to see what apple come up with. :)
Gotta love people's negativity in these forums for it's humour quality, unbelievable as it might be.
But it's high time that people here took that ridiculous voting system out too. It was misguided to begin with, it still is. But because people have been calling you out to change it you are becoming more stubborn and keeping it. Not a good a thing to do.
Anyway on to the topic, it sounds very exciting and I can't wait to see what apple come up with. :)
lazyrighteye
Oct 18, 04:20 PM
Despite what some are posting here, I feel Apple will wait until the new year to address any new iPod/iPhone/etc.
Why? Because they can.
Apple is one of the few companies than can afford to wait out the holiday season with their current offerings - knowing people who just bought the new iPod video redux will ALSO buy the next gen iPod video once they see how cool it is (it will definitely be more than a brighter screen and some lame additional features).
Honestly, I don't know. It just seems that in the past, Apple waited to hit us in the pocketbooks until AFTER the holiday shopping season. While MWSF seems the place for such an announcement, I'm not sure they would want to feature a new iPod video their iTV, OS 10.5, an iPhone etc. all at MWSF. Seems a lot.
Why? Because they can.
Apple is one of the few companies than can afford to wait out the holiday season with their current offerings - knowing people who just bought the new iPod video redux will ALSO buy the next gen iPod video once they see how cool it is (it will definitely be more than a brighter screen and some lame additional features).
Honestly, I don't know. It just seems that in the past, Apple waited to hit us in the pocketbooks until AFTER the holiday shopping season. While MWSF seems the place for such an announcement, I'm not sure they would want to feature a new iPod video their iTV, OS 10.5, an iPhone etc. all at MWSF. Seems a lot.
dsnort
Sep 5, 05:17 PM
How can Apple design a phone that will make it impossible for a 13 year old to scream into while driving her SUV?? I think you might be putting too much pressure on Apple there. Maybe a shock collar that can detect the high pitched squeal of an adolescent teenage girl...hooked into the ignition of the car so when it detects the girls voice and the engine engaged at the same time.....zzzzzzztttttttt!!!!! Ok that went way to far. Apple can make a cool phone...but it is still up to the people not to be idiots while using them.
If a 13 year old girl is driving an SUV we have a larger problem than her phone!
If a 13 year old girl is driving an SUV we have a larger problem than her phone!
Andronicus
Apr 9, 11:09 PM
I'm buying 2.
MikeVarney
Apr 12, 10:44 AM
I really can't see Apple getting more content at the same price as Netflix, or the same content at a lower price.
Granted Netflix can't sustain their pricing model forever, but Apple doesn't have many instances of making "better" and "cheaper" at the same time.
Granted Netflix can't sustain their pricing model forever, but Apple doesn't have many instances of making "better" and "cheaper" at the same time.
ryanw
Sep 12, 11:43 AM
i don't think it will be live...
their servers will not be able to handle the load..
They used to do all the apple events live broadcast. The wwdc keynotes and the itunes ones.
their servers will not be able to handle the load..
They used to do all the apple events live broadcast. The wwdc keynotes and the itunes ones.
Frisco
Nov 13, 12:42 PM
Great news! I was worried M$ recruited him for Zune commercials.
cchaplin
Mar 31, 08:09 AM
Where has all the logic gone? It sure isn't here.
If a company A is sued by more companies than company B, does it make comppany B right or better? No, it does not.
If a company C is more eager to sue other companies than company D, does it make company D better or does it indicate company D to be more right? No, it does not.
Anyway, even thought it would be great, I don't really expect to see any logic in any discussion where there is a difference of an opinion between actions or products by Apple against ANY other company.
If a company A is sued by more companies than company B, does it make comppany B right or better? No, it does not.
If a company C is more eager to sue other companies than company D, does it make company D better or does it indicate company D to be more right? No, it does not.
Anyway, even thought it would be great, I don't really expect to see any logic in any discussion where there is a difference of an opinion between actions or products by Apple against ANY other company.
X2468
Apr 5, 12:22 AM
Android and iPhone are the magic combo for Verizon
seedster2
Apr 26, 06:30 PM
A lot of you are a bunch of cheap asses. Most of you don't understand the amount of work that goes into producing these apps. They're not just PDFs that you download and flip through. You get both an interactive version and print version of the the magazine. The reason print subscriptions are so cheap is because they don't really care about print sales. You're paying them to give your information to them so they can use it for marketing purposes. Thus another reason the ipad/iphone version are more expensive is because Apple won't allow them to collect your information. Conde is currently working on a subscription model, but it also how they are going to be able to negotiate with Apple.
I like how everbody blames everything but the ipad. The ipad just makes for a crappy ebook with it's bright display and weight.
Amazing how everyone else trying to make money is "greedy" but when Apple charges a perceived premium the knee jerk response is "dont buy it troll".
Content doesnt just appear out of thin air. Creatives deserve to earn too.
I like how everbody blames everything but the ipad. The ipad just makes for a crappy ebook with it's bright display and weight.
Amazing how everyone else trying to make money is "greedy" but when Apple charges a perceived premium the knee jerk response is "dont buy it troll".
Content doesnt just appear out of thin air. Creatives deserve to earn too.
rasmasyean
Jun 26, 07:43 PM
Maybe, I'm not really sure. To me though, it seems like if the software has to scan you to figure out what part is an arm and a what is a leg, etc, then 2 people might be the max. But again, I really have no clue.
The way I understand what they are describing in the snip, it would prolly have to "scan" you to tell where your hands are (and not your feet, etc.). But after that initial scan, it can ignor the rest of your body and just track your hands...or the area where your hands are. This way, the positions of your two hands will be the only thing the computer has to focus on while the rest of your body doesn't need to get computed. Of course this depends on the software. If the license involves the device just outputting 1/2 skeleton configurations, then the game dev can only work with 2 ppl. If the game dev has more control over the sensor tracking, then they can do more body parts...or isolated areas of the screen.
The way I understand what they are describing in the snip, it would prolly have to "scan" you to tell where your hands are (and not your feet, etc.). But after that initial scan, it can ignor the rest of your body and just track your hands...or the area where your hands are. This way, the positions of your two hands will be the only thing the computer has to focus on while the rest of your body doesn't need to get computed. Of course this depends on the software. If the license involves the device just outputting 1/2 skeleton configurations, then the game dev can only work with 2 ppl. If the game dev has more control over the sensor tracking, then they can do more body parts...or isolated areas of the screen.
gugy
Oct 18, 08:18 PM
If the widescreen comes out this year, I expect it on the same week of the Zune. middle of November. later than that is too late for Xmas season. If that's the case then maybe we will see it at MWSF.
KnightWRX
Apr 11, 12:38 PM
hmmm never thought of it that way...I still disagree because while my car doesn't get scratches that often from driving, driving and small impacts from stones is very different than getting rubbed on a desk in a bag with keys, etc etc. I would not put a small, painted car part in my bag or on my desk without some sort of protection. Would you? Do you know a lot about clear coats? I'd like to hear more (being serious)
I don't know more about clear coats besides my personal experience with differing qualities of such on motorcycles and cars. A thick clear coat is quite resilient.
On the other hand, my Macbook aluminum unibody had the underside scratched a lot from simply rubbing in my bag and on my desk. Bare aluminum is hardly scratch resistant, at least not more than a clear coat.
And the beauty of the proper clear coat : You can always apply wax to it or a compound which will make it look brand new. Or you can reclear it. Bare aluminum ? Good luck.
I don't know more about clear coats besides my personal experience with differing qualities of such on motorcycles and cars. A thick clear coat is quite resilient.
On the other hand, my Macbook aluminum unibody had the underside scratched a lot from simply rubbing in my bag and on my desk. Bare aluminum is hardly scratch resistant, at least not more than a clear coat.
And the beauty of the proper clear coat : You can always apply wax to it or a compound which will make it look brand new. Or you can reclear it. Bare aluminum ? Good luck.
Analog Kid
Oct 13, 04:08 AM
erg not really. you do only have 2 holes in your head as you say, but your hearing is more advanced than that. your brain always factors in all the other elements, like your head position, so your brain notices and calculates the volumes of incoming sounds, so you can distinguish where things are in relation to you. obviously, your brain can't do that with headphones.
No reproduction system is perfect in all environments. When your brain translates a sound, it positions it relative to your head-- a sound in front of you will sound like it's coming from the right if your head is turned left. This is why you tend to look at something before you can react to it. If you have more time to react, your brain will probably work it out correctly.
As you say, headphones alone can't track head movement so the environment will appear to rotate with your head. If you're trying to simulate a fixed environment, or coordinate with an immersive display, then you'll need to deal with this somehow. They have the advantage, however, of being able to collapse the combined impact of a sound field into two point sources directly at the sensors (your ear canals).
Headphones have the additional complication that we position sound vertically by the filter effect of the fleshy parts of our ears-- which are different for every individual. Most systems use a generalized filter to approximate an average ear, whatever that means.
Open air speakers are trying to reproduce a sound field from a small number of point sources and can only produce the desired effect on one location in space, and the listener has to remain there. They also suffer from channel cross talk and reflections from walls and objects in the reproduction sound space that aren't intended to be in the simulated sound space. The Dolby home theater type systems are essentially two dimensional in the plain of the ceiling and floor, which causes problems if you're trying to get 3D sound, or sound indicating the vertical alignment of a computer display.
For positioning screen effects, headphones will probably win since they don't have to compensate for the environment and the user is almost certainly looking at the display fixed in front of them. Since the simulation environment is essentially two dimensional (the display), you might also get away with fixed speakers positioned around the display and ignore the cross talk and reflections. In either case, you'd also have to assume a distance from the display to the user and assume the user is centered.
Nothing simple is going to work in all cases...
No reproduction system is perfect in all environments. When your brain translates a sound, it positions it relative to your head-- a sound in front of you will sound like it's coming from the right if your head is turned left. This is why you tend to look at something before you can react to it. If you have more time to react, your brain will probably work it out correctly.
As you say, headphones alone can't track head movement so the environment will appear to rotate with your head. If you're trying to simulate a fixed environment, or coordinate with an immersive display, then you'll need to deal with this somehow. They have the advantage, however, of being able to collapse the combined impact of a sound field into two point sources directly at the sensors (your ear canals).
Headphones have the additional complication that we position sound vertically by the filter effect of the fleshy parts of our ears-- which are different for every individual. Most systems use a generalized filter to approximate an average ear, whatever that means.
Open air speakers are trying to reproduce a sound field from a small number of point sources and can only produce the desired effect on one location in space, and the listener has to remain there. They also suffer from channel cross talk and reflections from walls and objects in the reproduction sound space that aren't intended to be in the simulated sound space. The Dolby home theater type systems are essentially two dimensional in the plain of the ceiling and floor, which causes problems if you're trying to get 3D sound, or sound indicating the vertical alignment of a computer display.
For positioning screen effects, headphones will probably win since they don't have to compensate for the environment and the user is almost certainly looking at the display fixed in front of them. Since the simulation environment is essentially two dimensional (the display), you might also get away with fixed speakers positioned around the display and ignore the cross talk and reflections. In either case, you'd also have to assume a distance from the display to the user and assume the user is centered.
Nothing simple is going to work in all cases...
MacRumors
Sep 12, 10:57 AM
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Apple has posted an MPEG-4 video-on-demand stream (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/sep_2006/event/index.html) of today's special announcement. It is unclear whether it will be broadcasting live or whether it will be a replay of the event as Apple has done in the past and as AppleInsider has claimed (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2033). Either way, MacRumors will be providing coverage of the event as it unfolds using our state-of-the-art MacRumorsLive service.
Also, as many of you have already noticed, the Apple Store (http://store.apple.com/) has gone down for updates.
Apple has posted an MPEG-4 video-on-demand stream (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/sep_2006/event/index.html) of today's special announcement. It is unclear whether it will be broadcasting live or whether it will be a replay of the event as Apple has done in the past and as AppleInsider has claimed (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2033). Either way, MacRumors will be providing coverage of the event as it unfolds using our state-of-the-art MacRumorsLive service.
Also, as many of you have already noticed, the Apple Store (http://store.apple.com/) has gone down for updates.
Rodimus Prime
Apr 27, 04:32 PM
Hehe, nice one. That's exactly the reaction Google would get if they started working on something Apple already did. Where are the "Start your photocopiers" posts now, eh? :D
don't worry with in a few months of the release of Apple Turn by turn the fanboys will be saying Google copied Apple even though Google turn by turn has been around for years longer.
Remember to fanboys nothing existed until Apple starts using it.
don't worry with in a few months of the release of Apple Turn by turn the fanboys will be saying Google copied Apple even though Google turn by turn has been around for years longer.
Remember to fanboys nothing existed until Apple starts using it.
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